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Post by Ashla on Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:14 pm

I plan to prevent the repayment of pesticides and cattle, and if you don't want people who work for your economy to be healthy instead of mutilated or dying and most certainly shorter lived, you will vote to repeal. If you want more, longer-living, more productive people, you will vote against the repealment. coal tax so far 3-0 in favor
war so far 1-1
Repealment so far 2-0 for

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Re: The Law Council

Post by Ashla on Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:16 pm

if you respond with your final vote, I will do my part

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Re: The Law Council

Post by RK of Gondor and Arnor on Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:41 am

Joseph1 wrote:
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Joseph1 wrote:Type of bill: Special: War
Name of Bill Declaration of war on Arendelle und Wesselton und Sud-Inseln
Description: Declaration of war on the said nation, non-nuclear, biological or chemical warfare will be used. All member states' forces, coordinated by the generals of the War and Peace council, will fight the nation with the goal of total removal.
Please refrain from leaving the land barren or killing all citizens. States are welcome to raid palaces, farmhouses, etc. Loot may be taken. The main goal is to annex the nation, however, we must carefully release it after a transition in power to avoid a situation like the Middle East.

I have added this bill to the queue because it is important to defeat Phoenix Empress Helga. She is a monster that threatens our whole union. She has disdain for Queen Ashla. She must be stopped before she can cause damage to our union.
The RKGA votes against this bill, disdain for our monarch is not a valid reason for declaration for war. If she does pose an actual threat the RKGAF will lead the charge against them.
Are you not against Phoenix Empress Helga? She has fire powers are she has shown that she wants to be rivals with the Kingdom of Barisea. She has a personal conflict with Queen Ashla. She may want to attack us. We need to find a way to prevent her from endangering our leader and our people.
RK of Gondor and Arnor wrote:Type of Bill: Choose Below:
A) Tax B) Criminal Law C) Requirement(Such as health codes) D) Other
Name of Bill: Repealment Pesticides and Cattle Health
Description: Hereby repeals the Pesticides and Cattle Health Act

Date of Proposal January 19th 2017

The region of Arnor is highly dependent on pesticides to prevent locust swarms from wreaking havoc on crops. Already food production is decreased by 30% and the regional government is requesting food shipments from Gondor. This act must be repealed immediately to prevent a famine.
I am okay with the law being repealed. It is not a big issue to me, so I would likely vote yes on whatever bill pertains to the issue.
The people of the RKGA are not warmongers, far from it. Unless you can provide evidence of this fire queen making threats against us we will continue to oppose the bill.

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Post by RK of Gondor and Arnor on Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:43 am

Ashla wrote:I plan to prevent the repayment of pesticides and cattle, and if you don't want people who work for your economy to be healthy instead of mutilated or dying and most certainly shorter lived, you will vote to repeal. If you want more, longer-living, more productive people, you will vote against the repealment. coal tax so far 3-0 in favor
war so far 1-1
Repealment so far 2-0 for
Arnor is nearly in a state of famine, they're dependent on pesticides to fight off locust swarms and other varmint that devour crops, and the pesticides used by Arnorian farmers have been shown to have no negative effect on health.

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Post by Joseph1 on Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:24 pm

RK of Gondor and Arnor wrote:
Ashla wrote:I plan to prevent the repayment of pesticides and cattle, and if you don't want people who work for your economy to be healthy instead of mutilated or dying and most certainly shorter lived, you will vote to repeal. If you want more, longer-living, more productive people, you will vote against the repealment. coal tax so far 3-0 in favor
war so far 1-1
Repealment so far 2-0 for
Arnor is nearly in a state of famine, they're dependent on pesticides to fight off locust swarms and other varmint that devour crops, and the pesticides used by Arnorian farmers have been shown to have no negative effect on health.
We plan to vote for the repeal of the ban on pesticides. Not all pesticides are bad and they can be quite beneficial in stopping pests that harm crops.

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Post by Ashla on Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:28 pm

We will not change our position on this issue, I also plan to send food from barisea to assist the famine

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Re: The Law Council

Post by Joseph1 on Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:23 am

RK of Gondor and Arnor wrote:
Joseph1 wrote:
RK of Gondor and Arnor wrote:
Joseph1 wrote:Type of bill: Special: War
Name of Bill Declaration of war on Arendelle und Wesselton und Sud-Inseln
Description: Declaration of war on the said nation, non-nuclear, biological or chemical warfare will be used. All member states' forces, coordinated by the generals of the War and Peace council, will fight the nation with the goal of total removal.
Please refrain from leaving the land barren or killing all citizens. States are welcome to raid palaces, farmhouses, etc. Loot may be taken. The main goal is to annex the nation, however, we must carefully release it after a transition in power to avoid a situation like the Middle East.

I have added this bill to the queue because it is important to defeat Phoenix Empress Helga. She is a monster that threatens our whole union. She has disdain for Queen Ashla. She must be stopped before she can cause damage to our union.
The RKGA votes against this bill, disdain for our monarch is not a valid reason for declaration for war. If she does pose an actual threat the RKGAF will lead the charge against them.
Are you not against Phoenix Empress Helga? She has fire powers are she has shown that she wants to be rivals with the Kingdom of Barisea. She has a personal conflict with Queen Ashla. She may want to attack us. We need to find a way to prevent her from endangering our leader and our people.
RK of Gondor and Arnor wrote:Type of Bill: Choose Below:
A) Tax B) Criminal Law C) Requirement(Such as health codes) D) Other
Name of Bill: Repealment Pesticides and Cattle Health
Description: Hereby repeals the Pesticides and Cattle Health Act

Date of Proposal January 19th 2017

The region of Arnor is highly dependent on pesticides to prevent locust swarms from wreaking havoc on crops. Already food production is decreased by 30% and the regional government is requesting food shipments from Gondor. This act must be repealed immediately to prevent a famine.
I am okay with the law being repealed. It is not a big issue to me, so I would likely vote yes on whatever bill pertains to the issue.
The people of the RKGA are not warmongers, far from it. Unless you can provide evidence of this fire queen making threats against us we will continue to oppose the bill.
The United American South has also decided to oppose the war against Arendelle und Wesselton und Sud-Inseln due to the common ideals of social liberalism that Queen Ashla and Phoenix Empress Helga share. Ashla and Helga would probably be friends if they got to know each other. The Kingdom of United Countries has no business fighting their socially liberal sisters.

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Post by Ashla on Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:17 am

just saying: 1st: they are not socially liberal
2) they aren't in anyway friendly to each other, and never have been
3) We don't have anything more than basically being human in common

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Re: The Law Council

Post by Joseph1 on Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:26 pm

Type of Bill: Choose Below:
A) Tax  B) Criminal Law C) Requirement(Such as health codes) D) Other
Name of Bill: Funding Private Medical Practices Act
Description: This bill prohibits the federal government of the Kingdom of United Countries from funding private medical practices.


Date of Proposal 1-20-2017

I have added this bill to the queue for debate by the Law Council because it highlights an important issue. The issue is whether public funds should go to abortion providers or organizations that promote abortion. Senator Mark Iger is opposed to using public funds for this purpose. He argues that the government has no business promoting abortion. The government should at least stay neutral on the subject if they are not going to ban it. It is a waste of the taxpayers' money for it to go towards controversial programs. The government should steer away from as much controversy as possible.


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Post by Ashla on Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:56 pm

I will only allow this to pass only if another thing is passed in conjunction with it.
The government cannot fund not only abortion but any medical practice. no one practice will be singled out.

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Re: The Law Council

Post by Joseph1 on Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:42 am

Ashla wrote:I will only allow this to pass only if another thing is passed in conjunction with it.
The government cannot fund not only abortion but any medical practice. no one practice will be singled out.
Senator Iger is okay with this compromise. He wants to decrease the size of the government anyway. He also wants to carefully manage public money. He will edit the bill to ban public funding for medical practices.

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Post by RK of Gondor and Arnor on Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:52 pm

Joseph1 wrote:Type of Bill: Choose Below:
A) Tax  B) Criminal Law C) Requirement(Such as health codes) D) Other
Name of Bill: Funding Private Medical Practices Act
Description: This bill prohibits the federal government of the Kingdom of United Countries from funding private medical practices.


Date of Proposal 1-20-2017

I have added this bill to the queue for debate by the Law Council because it highlights an important issue. The issue is whether public funds should go to abortion providers or organizations that promote abortion. Senator Mark Iger is opposed to using public funds for this purpose. He argues that the government has no business promoting abortion. The government should at least stay neutral on the subject if they are not going to ban it. It is a waste of the taxpayers' money for it to go towards controversial programs. The government should steer away from as much controversy as possible.
Councilman Anárion votes against, services that provide abortions often provide several other essential womens' health services.

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Post by RK of Gondor and Arnor on Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:53 pm

Joseph1 wrote:
Ashla wrote:I will only allow this to pass only if another thing is passed in conjunction with it.
The government cannot fund not only abortion but any medical practice. no one practice will be singled out.
Senator Iger is okay with this compromise. He wants to decrease the size of the government anyway. He also wants to carefully manage public money. He will edit the bill to ban public funding for medical practices.
Doing this would cripple the RKGA's healthcare infrastructure, healthcare is provided for free in our country by the National Health Service, and cancelling the program would greatly decrease the average lifespan for at least several years.

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Re: The Law Council

Post by Joseph1 on Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:59 pm

RK of Gondor and Arnor wrote:
Joseph1 wrote:
Ashla wrote:I will only allow this to pass only if another thing is passed in conjunction with it.
The government cannot fund not only abortion but any medical practice. no one practice will be singled out.
Senator Iger is okay with this compromise. He wants to decrease the size of the government anyway. He also wants to carefully manage public money. He will edit the bill to ban public funding for medical practices.
Doing this would cripple the RKGA's healthcare infrastructure, healthcare is provided for free in our country by the National Health Service, and cancelling the program would greatly decrease the average lifespan for at least several years.
Senator Iger can just drop the bill altogether and focus on other important issues. It is unlikely to pass no matter how it is written.

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Post by Ashla on Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:54 pm

yeah, let's drop it

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Post by Joseph1 on Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:59 pm

Ashla wrote:yeah, let's drop it
Senator Mark Iger has officially dropped the bill. The government has other issues to worry about.

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Post by Ashla on Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:39 pm

Here is Mark Iger's bill, which has been endorsed by Barisea

Type of Bill: Choose Below:
A) Tax  B) Criminal Law C) Requirement(Such as health codes) D) Other
Name of Bill: Children's Television Act
Description: This bill makes sure that television programs are created to meet the educational and social needs* of children. It requires television networks that air programs for children to make at least half of their programming aimed at children educational and informative. The networks must also make sure that positive messages** are being broadcasted during breaks of television programs.

Terminology:
* "Educational and Informative" means teaching real facts, morals, customs/etiquette, or culture/mythology, as is the main focus of TV series, so that good shows stay, actually bad ones go.

** "Positive Messages" means messages that aren't racist/sexist or the like, nor including deep adult material
Date of Proposal 1-23-2017

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Post by Joseph1 on Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:43 pm

Ashla wrote:Here is Mark Iger's bill, which has been endorsed by Barisea

Type of Bill: Choose Below:
A) Tax  B) Criminal Law C) Requirement(Such as health codes) D) Other
Name of Bill: Children's Television Act
Description: This bill makes sure that television programs are created to meet the educational and social needs* of children. It requires television networks that air programs for children to make at least half of their programming aimed at children educational and informative. The networks must also make sure that positive messages** are being broadcasted during breaks of television programs.

Terminology:
* "Educational and Informative" means teaching real facts, morals, customs/etiquette, or culture/mythology, as is the main focus of TV series, so that good shows stay, actually bad ones go.

** "Positive Messages" means messages that aren't racist/sexist or the like, nor including deep adult material
Date of Proposal 1-23-2017
Senator Iger will vote in favor of this bill. With the help of all nations in the KUC, we can make the future bright.

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Post by Ashla on Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:46 pm

yep. I also vote en favour

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Post by Joseph1 on Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:52 pm

Type of Bill: Choose Below:
A) Tax B) Criminal Law C) Requirement(Such as health codes) D) Other
Name of Bill: Definition of Age Groups
Description: All persons at or under the age of three are toddlers, 3-6 are young children, 7-15 are children, 16-19 are teenagers, 20-60 are adults, and 61+ are elders


Date of Proposal: 1-23-2017

I have added this bill to the queue because this bill will make it easier to classify people for monetary purposes.

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Post by Ashla on Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:55 pm

I approve of this bill, will wait for others to respond

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Post by RK of Gondor and Arnor on Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:27 pm

Ashla wrote:Here is Mark Iger's bill, which has been endorsed by Barisea

Type of Bill: Choose Below:
A) Tax  B) Criminal Law C) Requirement(Such as health codes) D) Other
Name of Bill: Children's Television Act
Description: This bill makes sure that television programs are created to meet the educational and social needs* of children. It requires television networks that air programs for children to make at least half of their programming aimed at children educational and informative. The networks must also make sure that positive messages** are being broadcasted during breaks of television programs.

Terminology:
* "Educational and Informative" means teaching real facts, morals, customs/etiquette, or culture/mythology, as is the main focus of TV series, so that good shows stay, actually bad ones go.

** "Positive Messages" means messages that aren't racist/sexist or the like, nor including deep adult material
Date of Proposal 1-23-2017
Far less vague than the one before, a vote in favor.

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Post by RK of Gondor and Arnor on Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:28 pm

Joseph1 wrote:Type of Bill: Choose Below:
A) Tax B) Criminal Law C) Requirement(Such as health codes) D) Other
Name of Bill: Definition of Age Groups
Description: All persons at or under the age of three are toddlers, 3-6 are young children, 7-15 are children, 16-19 are teenagers, 20-60 are adults, and 61+ are elders


Date of Proposal: 1-23-2017

I have added this bill to the queue because this bill will make it easier to classify people for monetary purposes.
In favor as well

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Post by RK of Gondor and Arnor on Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:30 pm

Ashla wrote:We will not change our position on this issue, I also plan to send food from barisea to assist the famine
You're vetoing it then?

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Post by Ashla on Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:20 pm

RK of Gondor and Arnor wrote:
Ashla wrote:We will not change our position on this issue, I also plan to send food from barisea to assist the famine
You're vetoing it then?
yes. the other two bills will be passed

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